View Full Version : 360 backflip pulled off!!! ~(x-games)~
Dan_Guetter
08-16-2003, 10:22 PM
wasn't ready for it at all, but the MM brain deegan pulled the first 360 backflip at the x games here in LA.......it was the craziest thing i have ever seen!!!
pastrana pulled it too!!! he came home the win though!!!
1. pastrana
2. adams
3. deegan
adams pulled off a solid backflip heelclicker...so sick!!!
watch for it on TV sunday!!!!!! wild stuff here peoplez!
Moto440
08-16-2003, 11:54 PM
They did them at last years X-Games too...............
Guy400
08-17-2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Moto440
They did them at last years X-Games too............... Maybe I'm wrong but I didn't think they did the 360 backflip last year.
Wired
08-17-2003, 12:23 AM
moto440 your obviously a dumb @ss :rolleyes:
http://fmtx.shread.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=210808
Moto440
08-17-2003, 12:27 AM
What do you mean by a 360 back flip? That is what they have been calling the trick Metzger did last year, and what everyone has been doing all year.
Wired
08-17-2003, 12:30 AM
you must be a racer :blah:
what metzger was doing in X last year was a "backflip"
this year travis pastrana and brian deegan were doing 360 backflips... which means not only were they doing a backflip they were also rotating 360 degrees on axis.
Guy400
08-17-2003, 12:30 AM
They were just doing standard backflips last year. This year they threw the 360 degree rotation in with the backflip.
Moto440
08-17-2003, 12:32 AM
I guess I am dumb.........
Wired
08-17-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Moto440
I guess I am dumb.........
pretty much butthead
Moto440
08-17-2003, 12:34 AM
:D
sweet300ex
08-17-2003, 02:14 AM
I cant wait to see it! The commentary is gonno be funny as hell!
hondafox440
08-17-2003, 03:19 AM
It's good to see Deegan stepping up. He had a bad crash last year in Bako for the X-Games qualifiers. Overshot the jump and under rotated the backflip..
It sucks that Metzger pulled out. Must have been some wreck at Disney last week...
derekhonda
08-17-2003, 03:40 AM
what time and what channel
hondafox440
08-17-2003, 04:00 AM
http://www.expn.com
Check the TV listings for your timezone.
Damn, I was just reading some of the highlights. Nate pulled a backflip heelclicker over the 75 footer, Deegan pulled a backflip off the 75 footer, Pastrana tried the backy-360 twice and only landed it once, Deegan's 'Mulisha Twist' was a good minute after the horn sounded, and Pastrana's (the one he landed) was after the horn. The horn sounded, he tried it and fell on the landing, then he got up and hit the jump again and nailed it. IMO, it shouldn't have counted either..
Glow Plug
08-17-2003, 04:07 AM
Wow thats crazy there was alot of talk of metz and pastrana doing that kind of crazy chit lol But I think degeen desirved more than a bronze for pulling the first 360 flip :D
CowsBitePeople
08-17-2003, 04:09 AM
Why do i have to always be working when it is on tv!?
Ralph
08-17-2003, 05:09 AM
on the site the just say it was a 360, "backflips are out, 360's are in"
flyin#5
08-17-2003, 05:26 AM
makes you wonder what they will be pulling in 5 years doesnt it? i remember when the superman was one of the best tricks...:rolleyes:
zephead400ex
08-17-2003, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by CowsBitePeople
Why do i have to always be working when it is on tv!?
Word
Ex King
08-17-2003, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by zephead400ex
Word triple word
Ex King
08-17-2003, 07:19 AM
i would rather want 2 see quads in the X games with dirtbikes also
Originally posted by Ex King
triple word
:rolleyes:
Fender Bender
08-17-2003, 07:32 AM
Well, we sure know how to count...
Anyways back on the freestyle subject...
99_400EX
08-17-2003, 09:01 AM
whats the deal with the 8 foot wide ramp that was out there??? could there have been a quad demo or something???
hondafox440
08-17-2003, 10:08 AM
No, its just 2 superkickers pushed together.. Why, I don't know..
hessianmx111
08-17-2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by hondafox440
No, its just 2 superkickers pushed together.. Why, I don't know..
no its actually one big ramp for them to do the 360s off of. it wasnt a 360 flip it was a 360. a 360 flip is actually like a flip and then a 360, if you were watching bmx dirt, steven murray did one in his final run. trav and deegan did more of a inverted 360. its coming on tv tonight at 7 eastern on abc be sure to watch
Striker49
08-17-2003, 10:41 AM
Ive had it on since 3 and been watchin it. Trick stuff. :p
I still wanna see quads out there though. :D
sickmojave
08-17-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Striker49
I still wanna see quads out there though. :D
ME TOO:D
Wired
08-17-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by hessianmx111
no its actually one big ramp for them to do the 360s off of. it wasnt a 360 flip it was a 360. a 360 flip is actually like a flip and then a 360, if you were watching bmx dirt, steven murray did one in his final run. trav and deegan did more of a inverted 360. its coming on tv tonight at 7 eastern on abc be sure to watch
http://fmtx.shread.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=210808
looks like a little more then a 360 to me. he took off just like nyquist does on dirt bmx. flips hard and twists harder to the left of the bike. he's obviously upside down in the pics and the bike does a 360 twist while inverted. how can that be called just a 360??? actually the more and more i look at it, it looks like a corkscrew flair... more like a barrel role! who knows... its more then a 360 for sure :cool:
kabd69667
08-17-2003, 01:51 PM
its called an off axis 360...originated in wakeboarding, otherwise known as flatspins in other boardsports.
250x#93
08-17-2003, 01:53 PM
That **** is seriosly crazy:eek2: Damn was that awesome:eek:
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
wasn't ready for it at all, but the MM brain deegan pulled the first 360 backflip at the x games here in LA.......it was the craziest thing i have ever seen!!!
pastrana pulled it too!!! he came home the win though!!!
1. pastrana
2. adams
3. deegan
adams pulled off a solid backflip heelclicker...so sick!!!
watch for it on TV sunday!!!!!! wild stuff here peoplez!
man i hate pastrana, he wins even if hes not the best, like i said deegan is the best
00Banshee
08-17-2003, 02:55 PM
pastrana is the man!!!!
And the trick is NOT a 360 backflip, but a 360...
Guy400
08-17-2003, 02:57 PM
The whole X-Games scoring system is screwed up. When the final buzzer sounds that should be it unless you're climbing a ramp in which case it's too late to bail. But this crap about if you're going up the main drop-in ramp it counts as if you're attacking a trick is bogus. They should just kill it there. Adams had the best overall run out of all of them. Deegan's 360 had a sketchy landing and Pastrana's 2nd 360 was a lot smoother. I think the big backflip from the first jump pushed Pastrana past the others.
sickmojave
08-17-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Guy400
The whole X-Games scoring system is screwed up. When the final buzzer sounds that should be it unless you're climbing a ramp in which case it's too late to bail. But this crap about if you're going up the main drop-in ramp it counts as if you're attacking a trick is bogus. They should just kill it there. Adams had the best overall run out of all
I agree :ermm:
kabd69667
08-17-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by freeride132
man i hate pastrana, he wins even if hes not the best, like i said deegan is the best
pastrana's run was much more solid than deegans....i'll give him that, but like guy said, the buzzer rule is bull****
did he give the big gay thumbs up after his ride?
kabd69667
08-17-2003, 03:28 PM
pastrana? probably..he was going crazy after he landed the 3. even though it didnt count.
Tommy 17
08-17-2003, 03:41 PM
pastrana is nutz... pullin the backflip over the 1st jump was crazy...
personally i think travis was the smoothest doin the flips all though he didn't click his heels... he also does all the other tricks the smoothest... nate adams was very close but hes just not 100% like travis...
deegan just got **** lucky thats all i can say... all the rest of his tricks weren't even smooth... the other people where better besides his 300 yes 300 no 360 ... he didn't even rotate the whole way... hes not nearly as good..
MxDale71
08-17-2003, 03:44 PM
It was just a 360. The kicker is wide because the bikes have to spin off of their back tire instead of their front tire like BMX does. They basically do a super fat whip and kick the back end over and then they turn the front end back down into the landing. Yes, they are upside down but they don't do a back flip. Trust me, I saw Pastrana doing the 360 backflip into a foam pit on his 110 and it's friggin sick dude. Infact, Pastrana said it would probably be another year or 2 before he does the 360 backflip.
Also, Pastrana's 360 didn't count for his standing. Yes, Deegan did a 360 and didn't win, but he didn't land it real good and that does count against him even though the trick was insane. Pastrana won it because of him doing the back flip on the 85 footer right off the bat and then doing 2 or 3 more backflip combinations after it and the other awesome tricks he did and their flawless landings.
And Pastrana doing a gay thumbs up? Thats retarded. Why is it gay for him to be as excited and happy as he is after he has a good run? He's one of the craziest guys in motorsports and he deserves every win and he performs for the crowds and to have a good time. IMO, more athletes should be like that.
Also, I don't want to offend anyone, but it would just hurt the quad guys to go out there w/ the bikes. The quad guys just can't perform on the same level as the bikes, and people that don't know that it's harder to move a quad around will just look down on quads and think less of them.
JMO
deegan started the sport and is still leading the way hes alot older and alot bigger than some of these lil guys so the tricks arent as easy because the bike moves around alot more, the metal mulisha owns freestyle
wait 360 backflip? um, i thought it was just a 360 flatspin with a little whip in it? it didn't looked like a 360 backflip to me. i saw travis doing real 360 backflips into foam and they looked a heck of a lot different than what he just did. looks like he just did a 360 whip.:confused: can someone straighten me out?
MojaveKing
08-17-2003, 04:44 PM
hey Jon......u goin to be doin 360 backys next year....Xgames.....??:devil: :devil:
well i hope to see u guys in it!!!:)
doin...what 360 front flip...hahah:rolleyes:
deegan
http://fry.digisle.tv/perl/ESPN/play.pl?url=motoxfree_deegan_3rd.wm9_300k.espn_pag e.wmv
pastrana
http://fry.digisle.tv/perl/ESPN/play.pl?url=motoxfree_travis_1st.wm9_300k.espn_pag e.wmv
Adam202
08-17-2003, 04:53 PM
saw deegen do it and i was amazed, saw how clean pastranas was and i was just stunned, im pissed off metzger wasnt there :( .
oh god ...what are u guys talking about pastranas run sucked if u ask me....i was waiting for him to get going and he didnt do chit compared to deegan and adams, and i thought deegan actually had the best run, his tricks werent as big as nate adams but they were smooth and he threw in the 360 and landed it unlike pastrana, deegan should of won because he did a decent run and threw in a new trick no one else landed, 2nd should of been nate adams and pastrana last, pastrana was the least smooth if u ask me plus he crashed, wtf :confused:
Adam202
08-17-2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by freeride132
oh god ...what are u guys talking about pastranas run sucked if u ask me....i was waiting for him to get going and he didnt do chit compared to deegan and adams, and i thought deegan actually had the best run, his tricks werent as big as nate adams but they were smooth and he threw in the 360 and landed it unlike pastrana, deegan should of won because he did a decent run and threw in a new trick no one else landed, 2nd should of been nate adams and pastrana last, pastrana was the least smooth if u ask me plus he crashed, wtf :confused:
uhm yea he didnt deserve 1st, but he landed a 360 backflip so clean it was amazing, maybe yo udindt see the whole thing........
Adam202
08-17-2003, 06:27 PM
wtf the video you showed doesnt show him land the 360 backflip after his run, he does it twice and the 2nd time lands it flawless. i was talking about the 360 backflip he landed that was soo smooth. not his actual run.
Adam202
08-17-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by hondafox440
http://www.expn.com
Check the TV listings for your timezone.
Pastrana tried the backy-360 twice and only landed it once, Deegan's 'Mulisha Twist' was a good minute after the horn sounded, and Pastrana's (the one he landed) was after the horn. The horn sounded, he tried it and fell on the landing, then he got up and hit the jump again and nailed it. IMO, it shouldn't have counted either..
.:01_eXrIdEr:.
08-17-2003, 06:36 PM
i did one one time :o i could do it in my seleeeep:rolleyes:
i just watched it on espn the one he landed was after the buzzer, his run didnt deserve the win
Wired
08-17-2003, 07:05 PM
hahaaha all you guys complaining is funny :blah:
well it officially got called a corkscrew 360. so we're all alittle wrong with what we call it:confused2
about travis and deegan's scoring... progression has and always will out score other tricks. BUT i do feel nate adams should have won even though travis and deegan did the corkscrew thingy ma bob flipidy thing. his run was flawless and was within the certain time frame givin them. but you have to give it up for the BALLS deegan and travis have to even think about throwing something like they did. there im done with this topic, lets focus on a quad 360 barrel role backflip thingy... lol :devil:
MxDale71
08-17-2003, 07:49 PM
True true... Adams did have a flawless run. Maybe he should have won.
Either way, all you guys hating on Travis for winning need to remember that it was the judges that said Pastrana won, so they should be the ones you get mad at. But all of those guys are the worlds best and are flat out insane and I wouldn't want to be one of the guys having the tough job of trying to decide which one is better... they are all awesome.
I wish there was a little bowing down icon smiley face thingy on here, cause all of those guys deserve a LOT of respect.
XANDADA
08-18-2003, 02:44 AM
I can't wait for the Gravity Games in Cleveland again! Let's see, last year for the mx freestyle my seats were next to the Dodge big wigs in the front row. For the skate & bike vert ramp I was at the bottom of the ramp in the athlete's family/friend section. I got an athlete pass which gives ya free rein over any seats/area in the house. If anyones going this year drop me a pm, I'll do my best to hook you up but no promises....:devil:
Got Huevos?
08-18-2003, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by freeride132
oh god ...what are u guys talking about pastranas run sucked if u ask me....i was waiting for him to get going and he didnt do chit compared to deegan and adams, and i thought deegan actually had the best run, his tricks werent as big as nate adams but they were smooth and he threw in the 360 and landed it unlike pastrana, deegan should of won because he did a decent run and threw in a new trick no one else landed, 2nd should of been nate adams and pastrana last, pastrana was the least smooth if u ask me plus he crashed, wtf :confused:
yeah but u ride deegans d*ck all the time and is always "well deegan is the best so if deegan didn't win then soemone must have cheated" or "deegans the best no ones better then deegan cuz i said so and everyone else sucks" so shut ur close minded mouth up someone else won except it. what u say gets annoying after hearing it over and over.
IT was all photochopped on TV it wasn't even real.....:ermm: :rolleyes:
Adam202
08-18-2003, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by freeride132
i just watched it on espn the one he landed was after the buzzer, his run didnt deserve the win
dude, like every rider got to do some tricks after the buzzer that counted. do you listen to the TV? or just watch it?
I guess Pastrana coming out of the gate with the backflip wasnt as good as whatever deegan did? Pastrana is a TON smoother than Deegan. You just need to quit having fantasies about Deegan and get into the real world. After all, he DOESNT have boobs.:confused2
im not its bs tho, pastrana bobbled a lil when he landed that flip,plus the judging seemed pretty gay
last year metz didnt do as good of a run as deegan but he did the flip and won because it was a new trick deegan does the 360 which is harder than a flip and gets bronze, if they went more by the total run nate adams should of had it he was the smoothest and had the best tricks and he didnt crash, just judging by there runs i would give deegan silver because he landed first 360 ever did a ok run held his tricks for awhile, id give adams 1st because he was awesome and all of his tricks were big and super smooth, i expected more from pastrana after all his talk about barrel rolls and rodeo flips at x and he ended up crashing on his last trick...and when he landed the 360 it should not of counted it was way after, his crash should of been his last trick
i dont think pastranas 80ft backflip was as good, its old new metz did it last year, deegan did something totally new and landed it even though it was sketchy
Juggalo
08-18-2003, 07:01 AM
nates run did rule. technically yeah i think he shoulda won. pastrana's run WAS smoother than deegans plus he had bigger tricks than deegan but then again he crashed. the crash was after the timer tho i think. so was the second 360. so really i think the judges DID NOT count any of the 3 360's thrown that night. they just liked pastranas run the best. it was a damn good run but i think nates was better. but it was so close its not really worth arguing about.
hessianmx111
08-18-2003, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Wired
http://fmtx.shread.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=210808
looks like a little more then a 360 to me. he took off just like nyquist does on dirt bmx. flips hard and twists harder to the left of the bike. he's obviously upside down in the pics and the bike does a 360 twist while inverted. how can that be called just a 360??? actually the more and more i look at it, it looks like a corkscrew flair... more like a barrel role! who knows... its more then a 360 for sure :cool:
yeah now that ive actually seen it on tv i think it was more of what you guys were saying. it doesnt matter cuz the final order should have been-nate,deegan,and pastrana. trick for trick nates run was so much better than deegans or pastranas. i mean pastranas biggest trick was like a ruler which is awesome but the rest of his tricks were really lacking, that cliffhanger thing that he did in both final and prelims was rediculous(sp) he brought back that gay 1 handed lazy boy , trav didnt get his heels together in the backy clicker,nate did. true pastranas flips were awesome but nate did so many smooth tricks and flips and also flipped the 85 foot comp ramp while no footing. pastrana and deegan both flipped it to but didnt throw a variation/ pastranas first 360 was in the time but he wrecked deegan i thought actually had a better run than trav. his 3 was also after time to. but hell what do i know i guess wonderboy hasta win:confused: mark my words nate was screwed.
NTPRacing#19
08-18-2003, 10:37 AM
its just plain insane now a days. to go pro in FMX now you have to be born into the sport or brought up by a past fmx pro.
99_400EX
08-18-2003, 02:07 PM
kinda like the BMX dirt "turn down 360"
250x#93
08-18-2003, 03:48 PM
Sux that mike didn't run:( I think that guys bout coolest out of all them, travis just seems to gay:o although he is a insane fmx'er but mike just seems more hard *** or sumthin, hes cool:devil:
all you deegan quacks are full of it :confused2
deegan was still pulling the usual supermans out in comp like last year while metz and pastrana (the REAL riders) were doing backflip variations.
give it up to pastrana:devil:
who cares if he's got his g~y thumb thing goin on :confused2
deegan has his g~y DEAD SAILOR (BURNNNN:devil: ) thing goin' on :eek:
hessianmx111
08-19-2003, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by stix
all you deegan quacks are full of it :confused2
deegan was still pulling the usual supermans out in comp like last year while metz and pastrana (the REAL riders) were doing backflip variations.
give it up to pastrana:devil:
who cares if he's got his g~y thumb thing goin on :confused2
deegan has his g~y DEAD SAILOR (BURNNNN:devil: ) thing goin' on :eek:
im not a deegan worshiper i dont really like him as a rider that much but trick for trick his run was overall better than pastranas imo. but it doesnt matter cuz nate should have smoked both of their arses with his run. and you also mentioned that pastrana was a real rider for his flip variations and he is without a doubt a great moto rider but his tricks arent that great and he wouldnt have made finals if it wasnt for the flip. nate,bamberg,kenny,drake and kinnaird etc all have better tricks than pastrana. its just coming down to that flip.pastrana was the best rider of the xgames but not the best freestyler.:ermm:
250x#93-tune in at 9 eastern to see mike jones eat it hard in the moto big air comp where he attempted a barrel roll but got no where close.
tants
08-19-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Wired
pretty much butthead
:eek2:
stace609
08-19-2003, 11:24 AM
metzger's sponsor ecc is my local honda shop. they have like pictures up of him with little word bubbles to like buy 50 handle bars and like a bike that he rode.
i was upset when they showed his wreck and were talking to him, saying he wasn't going to be in it.
what i think isn't fair about the whole thing is they judge a lot of it on one trick, i think kenny bartram said he doesn't even like the backflip but you have to do it nowadays...
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